The Conversation on "Gay Marriage" we're not having

In all the talk about rights and "gay marriage" not a lot of discussion has been had about the collateral damage done to children raised by "gay" parents.
They will be the causalities left behind in the culture war.

 The Gay Marriage Wake-Up Call

It's a long article but well worth the read.

Poll on "Gay Marriage" Doesn't Show What We've Been Told

We've constantly been told through mostly the dinosaur liberal/commie media, that is in the back pocket of gay activists btw, that attitudes about homosexuas are changing.
Even though just about every time "gay marriage" has been put to a vote it fails miserably.

That's why the current trend for "gay activists" is to bypass the referendum process, shop around for a liberal judge, and do a run around of the voters.
So now the GOP has decided that it's an irrelevant issue that is costing them votes.
So you wonder what the RNC will make of this poll?

  GOP poll defies tide on gay marriage

Two conservative groups are pushing back on moves by the GOP to drop opposition to same-sex marriage from party platforms, releasing a poll of base voters taken last month that found in favor of defining marriage as “only” between a man and a woman.
The poll, commissioned by groups led by conservatives Gary Bauer and Tony Perkins, runs counter to a wide variety of opinion polls that show movement on the question of same-sex marriage, with more voters favoring it than opposing it.
Last week, the Nevada GOP removed opposition to same-sex marriage from its platform, with the state chairman saying the move was indicative of where the party is headed.
The survey by the GOP polling firm Wilson Research Strategies was of Republican and Republican-leaning independents and was taken over a month ago, sampling 801 people nationwide from March 18 through 20, with a 3.5 percent margin of error.
The survey showed 82 percent agreeing with a statement that marriage should be between “one man and one woman.” It also found that 75 percent disagreed that “politicians should support the redefinition of marriage to include same-sex couples.”~snip~

First off if there was a "tide" for "gay marriage" it would hardly need to be taken out of the hands of the voters and placed in the courts.
But another thing that should trouble the republican party is the wide margin of "Republican and Republican-leaning independents" who favor traditional marriage.
Now commie/leftist/liberals ridicule the poll because it focused on the groups "Republican and Republican-leaning independents" because being the self-centered, narcissistic boobs that they are, they believe their opinion matters. Even though they wouldn't vote for a republican to save their mothers life.
What should matter to the RNC is the opinion of voters who are most likely to vote for them. The best chance for that to happen is if they pay attention to the actual thoughts and opinions of their constituents as opposed to what the commie/liberal mainstream media tells them what we think.
Trying to move towards the democrat platform is what cost the RNC and Mitt Romney last time. Voters want to see a clear choice between returning to responsible governance and the politics of division that's been shoved down our throats.

Does One Reality Show Matter?

As the Duck Dynasty, A&E, Glaad drama continues to unfold I've been seeing a lot of people asking, what with all the other things going on, why does this matter?

I've come to the conclusion that the outrage over the Phil Robertson suspension goes way deeper than a TV reality show. What it's really about is pent up anger of Americans who are tired of being ignored.
For several years the government has excelled at ignoring the objections of the people.

For instance take Obamacare,please, since the law was enacted polls have consistently shown a majority of Americans wanted it repealed. Since the dysfunctional website has gone live the numbers against Obamacare has really spiked upward and still the democrats and Obama have continued to support it even as it begins to collapse under it's own weight. Obama and the dems have begun frantically to change the law as it nears it's dead line sending the health insurance industry into chaos. The damage to the health care system will be catastrophic and it all could have been avoided if the ACA was repealed and replaced with common sense legislation.
But it wasn't and now we'll all suffer the consequences because we were ignored

Government continues to spend out of control and a vast majority of Americans believe big government is our greatest threat. Yet Obama and the dems continue to rack up huge deficits in spite of Americans telling them to reign it in.

In every state that "gay marriage" was placed on a ballot it failed despite the velvet mafia pulling poll numbers out of their ass claiming that a majority of Americans approved of "gay marriage". Again the will of the people was ignored as the homosexual activists bypassed the public and went straight to the state legislatures or the courts. Enabling government to again defy the will of the public.

We've gotten to the point that once government gets involved in a situation then we know that there is a certain futility to any efforts be it protests or petitions to sway the outcome.
Which is why the Chick-fil-a protest and hopefully the Duck Dynasty one will prevail. Because these protests depend on free market pressures as opposed to going up against an intransigent government entity.

Government has become a criminal cabal that answers to no one but private businesses have to answer to their customers and that is something that we can control.
If we can take back a little bit in the culture war then special interest lobbyists may lose some of their grip on our politicians and they just may start listening.

Lalala We Can't Hear You!!!

As society rushes to alter the fabric of the family there are some out there who are attempting to take a look at what the possible consequences will be to future generations.

A Married Mom and Dad Really Do Matter: New Evidence from Canada

There is a new and significant piece of evidence in the social science debate about gay parenting and the unique contributions that mothers and fathers make to their children’s flourishing. A study published last week in the journal Review of the Economics of the Household—analyzing data from a very large, population-based sample—reveals that the children of gay and lesbian couples are only about 65 percent as likely to have graduated from high school as the children of married, opposite-sex couples. And gender matters, too: girls are more apt to struggle than boys, with daughters of gay parents displaying dramatically low graduation rates.
Unlike US-based studies, this one evaluates a 20 percent sample of the Canadian census, where same-sex couples have had access to all taxation and government benefits since 1997 and to marriage since 2005.
While in the US Census same-sex households have to be guessed at based on the gender and number of self-reported heads-of-household, young adults in the Canadian census were asked, “Are you the child of a male or female same-sex married or common law couple?” While study author and economist Douglas Allen noted that very many children in Canada who live with a gay or lesbian parent are actually living with a single mother—a finding consonant with that detected in the 2012 New Family Structures Study—he was able to isolate and analyze hundreds of children living with a gay or lesbian couple (either married or in a “common law” relationship akin to cohabitation).
So the study is able to compare—side by side—the young-adult children of same-sex couples and opposite-sex couples, as well as children growing up in single-parent homes and other types of households.~snip~

There are those who have a vested interest in the outcome who have claimed that these kinds of studies have already been debunked. Mostly by attacking the methodology of the studies, it's unfortunate that the same scrutiny hasn't been used on the limited studies they cite that supposedly do the debunking.

Unfortunately it appears that society is dead set on handing over generations of children to try and survive in dysfunctional family units without a fair airing of the consequences that might ensue. I mean it's not like the liberal/commie media will report on any studies that might cast doubt on the catechism of "gay rights" and how it might affect any children trapped in the grip of homosexual equality.
Opposing evidence or opinions are not allowed.

Someday, in the not to distant future, there will be a generation that will stand before society who will demand to know why we allowed  them to be set up for failure when the possible evidence was staring us in the face.
The poorest response we could give is the "the gays made us do it".

Cha-Ching

So all it takes is expressing an opinion to get yourself sued if your opinion is for traditional marriage.

Vt. B&B settles lawsuit with gay couple

LYNDONVILLE, Vt. (BP) -- A Vermont bed and breakfast has settled a lawsuit brought by the state's Human Rights Commission and two women who wanted to have a same-sex wedding reception on the inn's property.
The Wildflower Inn in Lyndonville agreed to pay $10,000 to the Vermont Human Rights Commission as a civil penalty for violating Vermont's Fair Housing and Public Accommodations Act as well as $20,000 in a charitable trust to be controlled by the couple, the Burlington Free Press reported Aug. 23.
"The Wildflower Inn has always served -- and will continue to serve -- everyone in our community. But no one can force us to abandon our deeply held beliefs about marriage," owner Jim O'Reilly, a Catholic, said in a statement. "Our beliefs haven't changed, but we do have lives to live, a family to love, a business to grow, and a community to serve.
"Small businesses like ours cannot match the limitless resources of the government and the ," O'Reilly said. "Ongoing litigation like this can cripple any small business and the livelihood of its owners, so we're relieved to put this ordeal behind us."
The story dates back to 2005 when two other women asked Wildflower to host their civil union ceremony and O'Reilly said he would be willing to host the ceremony in compliance with state law but disclosed his belief that marriage is the union of one man and one woman.

It's not enough to simply comply with the law you also have to keep silent about what you believe. The right to speak freely is being whittled away piece by piece by those hell bent on forcing society to not only just condone but to mindlessly approve.
Next step will be bankrupting churches and religious institutions for teaching their moral beliefs.

And the Wheels on the Bus

Barely a week after Obama wins his second term giving him more "flexibility" the hits to the economy keep on coming.

November 13 , 2012 Layoffs

Glens Falls Hospital NY - 29
Bayou Cane Louisiana - 7 FD Layoffs Likely
San Diego Hospice - Possible Violations may = Layoffs
Sun Media newspaper division ( International ) - 500
Publishing Firm Lulu in Raleigh - 9
Iron Range nonprofit Minn. - Layoffs Pending
Hostess - 3 Plant Closing = 627 Jobs Lost
Hamilton FD Ohio - Possible 2 Closing - 17 Layoffs
NBCUniversal - 500
Dana Corporation - Warns Employees of  Poss. Layoffs
Mississippi County Arkansas - About 12 Layoffs
TMX Group ( International ) - Plans to Cut 100 Jobs

November 12 , 2012 Layoffs

Update: Wingspan Portfolio Advisors - 459 Possible Layoffs
German news agency dapd -100
The Commercial Appeal - Another Round of Layoffs?
Airlines SAS ( International ) - About 6,000 Jobs Lost

Of course that's not all as Obama sheds any obligations to those who supported him.

Obama Won't Fight For Gay Marriage His Second Term

Barack Obama isn’t exactly famous for his loyalty; he has a history of jettisoning people once they’ve outlived their usefulness to him. This time, it’s the gay community.
On Friday, Obama told an MTV audience that he would not fight for gay marriage his second term, intoning that “it would be up to future generations of Americans to implement meaningful reform.”
Here’s the kicker; realizing that some states are now endorsing gay marriage, Obama suddenly became a champion of states’ rights, asserting, “For us to try to legislate federally into this area is probably the wrong way to go.”

Also for those who voted Obama because they were worried that their food stamps would get cut if Romney won, well.....worry no more.

Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced

Ohio families receiving food stamps could get an unwelcome surprise come January: $50 less every month in assistance.
For the 869,000 households enrolled in the program for the poorest Ohioans, that could amount to about $520 million annually out of the grocery budgets.
Because of the way the federal government calculates utility expenses for people receiving the benefit, a mild winter nationwide last year, and a lower price for natural gas, many families could experience a significant cut in aid, those familiar with the program say.
Recipients should get a letter from the state Department of Job and Family Services this month explaining the change, said Ben Johnson, a spokesman for the agency.
Meanwhile, food banks and others that distribute food assistance are bracing for increased demand.

Obama's well on his way to "fundamentally" change America, and he'll throw anyone under the bus to do it.

Persistence in the Face of Defeat

You'd think that after the massive support of Chick-fil-a   on Aug. 1 there would be a re-evaluation of how the gay marriage supporters present themselves to the rest of the country.

Chick-fil-A Touts Record Profits

Following the intense backlash fast-food chain Chick-fil-A received when its president publicly took a stance against gay marriage, supporters of "traditional marriage"—and fried-chicken sandwiches—spoke with their dollars.

But no, they start immediately looking for someone else to intimidate.


Petitions want Berenstain Bears out of Chick-fil-A campaign

PHILADELPHIA –  The publisher of the Berenstain Bears children's books is being urged to cut ties with Chick-fil-A because of its president's statements opposing gay marriage.
Three organizations said Wednesday they delivered petitions with 80,000 signatures to HarperCollins. The petitions demand the New York-based publishing house end the Berenstain Bears' affiliation with the national fast-food chain and say the beloved bears teach the importance of standing against bigotry.
The petitions urge HarperCollins to follow the lead of the Jim Henson Co., which pulled its Muppet toys from Chick-fil-A kids' meals. A similar campaign with Berenstain Bears is slated for this month.

Ya know...people are free to spend or not spend their money on what they please.  But it seems odd to me that groups who attempt to "shame" businesses and customers into not supporting someone for their beliefs would continue to do so after getting soundly rebuked for their efforts.
This really doesn't seem to be the best way to persuade others to a particular position.
Maybe after the backlash becomes more intense these groups will re-think labeling people with different views as "haters" and "bigots".

I kind of doubt it though.

Abandoning "Hope and Change" Dems go for Gay Marriage

So with unemployment staying stagnant at 8% and above for over three years and women and minorities being hardest hit along with the GDP shrinking towards a dribble ,finally the democratic party has a platform that they can really get behind.

Democrats Draft Gay Marriage Platform

Democrats appear ready to embrace same-sex marriage as part of their party platform, a policy shift that reflects an expanded acceptance of gay rights in mainstream politics.
The move would place the party in line with the beliefs of President Obama, who in May became the first sitting president to declare that gay men and lesbians should be able to marry.
Democratic Party officials had squabbled over the issue in the past. But at a platform-drafting meeting over the weekend in Minneapolis, they approved the first step to amend their platform, placing the amendment on track for adoption. In two weeks, the entire platform committee will vote at a meeting scheduled in Detroit. Then, if approved as expected, it would go before convention delegates in Charlotte, N.C., for final passage in early September

Glad to see they got their priorities straight. I guess since they can't seem to do anything about the other stuff they decided to give up on improving the economy and go to something else their good at whining about.

I mean what could be better than having gay married couples join the ranks of families losing their jobs, running out their unemployment insurance benefits, go on food stamps, lose their homes and end up living in over crowded shelters or on the streets?

There's some "equality" for you.